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	<title>Comments on: More Dirty Latin Poetry</title>
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		<title>By: Booklover35</title>
		<link>http://www.zenfetish.com/2009/12/21/more-dirty-latin-poetry/#comment-38296</link>
		<dc:creator>Booklover35</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 03:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy, happy holidays to all of the zen fetish readers and to our favorite piece on earth!</description>
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		<title>By: PQS</title>
		<link>http://www.zenfetish.com/2009/12/21/more-dirty-latin-poetry/#comment-38288</link>
		<dc:creator>PQS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was wondering where the &quot;thousand kisses&quot; reference came from in the Catullus poem you posted above.  So I &quot;googled&quot; and voila!  I found this other beautiful poem of his.  It reminded me a lot like your &quot;Someday&quot; poem -- found here --&gt;, 

http://www.zenfetish.com/2006/10/03/someday/

which I&#039;ve always thought was one of the best ones you ever wrote.  Anyway, here&#039;s the Catullus poem I found:

Catullus 5

Vivamus, mea Lesbia, atque amemus,
rumoresque senum seueriorum 
omnes unius aestimemus assis. 
soles occidere et redire possunt:
nobis cum semel occidit breuis lux,
nox est perpetua una dormienda. 
da mi basia mille, deinde centum, 
dein mille altera, dein secunda centum,
deinde usque altera mille, deinde centum.
dein, cum milia multa fecerimus, 
conturbabimus illa, ne sciamus, 
aut ne quis malus inuidere possit,
cum tantum sciat esse basiorum. 

Let us live, my Lesbia, and love. 
As for all the rumors of those stern old men, 
Let us value them at a mere penny. 
Suns may set and yet rise again, but 
For us, with our brief light, they can set but once. 
The night which falls is one never-ending sleep. 
So give me a thousand kisses now, then a hundred. 
Then, another thousand, and a second hundred. 
Then, yet another thousand, and a hundred. 
Then, when we have counted up many thousands, 
Let us shake the abacus, so that no one may know their number, 
And become jealous when they see 
How many kisses it is that we have shared.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was wondering where the &#8220;thousand kisses&#8221; reference came from in the Catullus poem you posted above.  So I &#8220;googled&#8221; and voila!  I found this other beautiful poem of his.  It reminded me a lot like your &#8220;Someday&#8221; poem &#8212; found here &#8211;&gt;, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.zenfetish.com/2006/10/03/someday/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zenfetish.com/2006/10/03/someday/</a></p>
<p>which I&#8217;ve always thought was one of the best ones you ever wrote.  Anyway, here&#8217;s the Catullus poem I found:</p>
<p>Catullus 5</p>
<p>Vivamus, mea Lesbia, atque amemus,<br />
rumoresque senum seueriorum<br />
omnes unius aestimemus assis.<br />
soles occidere et redire possunt:<br />
nobis cum semel occidit breuis lux,<br />
nox est perpetua una dormienda.<br />
da mi basia mille, deinde centum,<br />
dein mille altera, dein secunda centum,<br />
deinde usque altera mille, deinde centum.<br />
dein, cum milia multa fecerimus,<br />
conturbabimus illa, ne sciamus,<br />
aut ne quis malus inuidere possit,<br />
cum tantum sciat esse basiorum. </p>
<p>Let us live, my Lesbia, and love.<br />
As for all the rumors of those stern old men,<br />
Let us value them at a mere penny.<br />
Suns may set and yet rise again, but<br />
For us, with our brief light, they can set but once.<br />
The night which falls is one never-ending sleep.<br />
So give me a thousand kisses now, then a hundred.<br />
Then, another thousand, and a second hundred.<br />
Then, yet another thousand, and a hundred.<br />
Then, when we have counted up many thousands,<br />
Let us shake the abacus, so that no one may know their number,<br />
And become jealous when they see<br />
How many kisses it is that we have shared.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.zenfetish.com/2009/12/21/more-dirty-latin-poetry/#comment-38265</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catullus was quite the rascal.  And you&#039;re quite the Frisky One.  Which is why we love you and your blog. 

Happy Holidays to you and the Zen gang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catullus was quite the rascal.  And you&#8217;re quite the Frisky One.  Which is why we love you and your blog. </p>
<p>Happy Holidays to you and the Zen gang.</p>
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		<title>By: PQS</title>
		<link>http://www.zenfetish.com/2009/12/21/more-dirty-latin-poetry/#comment-38258</link>
		<dc:creator>PQS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:26:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great find!  Hooray for Catullus! That&#039;s the way a poet should deal with his critics! Put their names in a new poem, tell them why they&#039;re wrong in it, and then tell them to kiss your ass.  

I also enjoyed another lesson from this poem -- that human nature hasn&#039;t changed much in the last 2000 years.  There&#039;s still an inherent tension between the creator and his critics. 

So thanks for the great laugh this poem gave me. (I especially loved Catullus&#039; references to his critics as &quot;cocksucker Aulius&quot; and &quot;faggot Furius&quot;).  I&#039;m copying this poem and the translation you provided.  I intend to show this to a few of my friends at my next Christmas party!

Who says Latin is a dead language?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great find!  Hooray for Catullus! That&#8217;s the way a poet should deal with his critics! Put their names in a new poem, tell them why they&#8217;re wrong in it, and then tell them to kiss your ass.  </p>
<p>I also enjoyed another lesson from this poem &#8212; that human nature hasn&#8217;t changed much in the last 2000 years.  There&#8217;s still an inherent tension between the creator and his critics. </p>
<p>So thanks for the great laugh this poem gave me. (I especially loved Catullus&#8217; references to his critics as &#8220;cocksucker Aulius&#8221; and &#8220;faggot Furius&#8221;).  I&#8217;m copying this poem and the translation you provided.  I intend to show this to a few of my friends at my next Christmas party!</p>
<p>Who says Latin is a dead language?</p>
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		<title>By: Vanilla Savant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vanilla Savant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mirabile dictu! Et femina mirabila! Gratia plena.</description>
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